I guess this is why you don't assume, lol. As far as the cz having a short throat, I'm aware of that, so i figured if it fits the cz, it should be good in my other 9mms, but I'd still check obviously. Just figured the cz would be the shortest compared to a springfield , remington r1, beretta 92 and springfield xds.
Thanks for all of your help. Load data is not a recipe. It's a field report. If you are using the exact same bullet AND it will pass a plunk test in your chamber, that's peachy, but load data is not what YOU are supposed to do. It's a field report that says what they did. YOU should determine your max OAL with every bullet, then load accordingly, adjusting from the load data.
Caniks are not OAL-limited by magazine alone. Like every other pistol on the planet, the OAL limit is heavily influenced by bullet profile. If that's been your experience that Caniks are only limited by the magazine, you simply haven't tried to load yet with a bullet profile that requires you to load shorter.
I assure you they exist. I guarantee you that you can't load a typical gr JHP to 1. CCI primers were used in Starline brass. The low end was so mild that hardly any felt recoil. The upper end was still easy to manage. The optimum range seems to be in the range of 7. Click for pictures. Load 2 Starline Brass.
I bought of the. At this speed there is minimal leading in the barrel and it's only at the last inch or two. Accuracy is great. I can hold 1" or smaller at 50 yards when shooting off of my truck's bed.
Put a better shooter behind the trigger and I'm sure it would tighten up. Current load is 30gr W in Hornady brass with a Fed M primer. I tested the slug against a jug of water and 10" of wet, compressed paper. It ripped apart the water jug and penetrated " into the paper. Retained weight was right at Observed size after firing was.
This was collected from a downward angle shot. Overall I was amazed at the integrity of these projectiles! They dump energy like a hollow point but penetrate like a solid. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a kid from South Louisiana! I'll be shooting a lot more of these in the coming months. Tried the gr WFN Pugnose. I tried several different powders and combinations and they only shot so so for me.
Boy does it shoot!!! I am an accuracy nut so takes a lot to impress me but the grainers came alive. I shoot Can't beat these bullets with this combination and they are half the price of my favorite jackets bullets.
Love them! Chrono graphed at 10 feet feet per second. My new hunting load. No leading at all. Shot from a Ruger gp 4 inch. Cowboy 20 Rossi M92 20" bbl. Distance verified by laser. Very pleased with your bullet!! Click for picture. Worked up a couple of. I wasn't sure about pushing it to the velocities I wanted without gas checks, but I had great luck with the 1 Buffalo, which averaged fps in my Marlin 48 grains of Benchmark and grouped at 1.
Did I mention no lead left behind? I decided to give it a shot, literally. I tried a couple of powders I had on hand, and finally settled on 8. There is no published data I could easily find for blue dot with this type of bullet, so as always, this load is MY workup, and I found it safe for MY gun, so use this data at your own risk, and remember to start lower and work up. I have NOT shot this load from any of my handguns as of yet. Velocity stayed right at fps measured at 12 feet from muzzle with chrony f1 with no sign of lead in the barrel and a nice lube ring around the muzzle just like the 1 Buffalo.
Group, shot from a rifle rest, was 8 rounds in one large, ragged hole at 50 yards with iron sights. I am super happy with both of the MBC bullets I have tried. They are very reasonably priced, are of good quality, and always seem to be on hand at Graf's, which is driving distance for me.
Just got back from testing my first loads of the Missouri Bullet Co plain-base, coated bullets in my. These were loaded with 9. I got an eight shot group in 0. No vertical velocity stringing at all, so I expect shot to shot variance to be low.
I calculated that this combination would deliver fps out of my rifle, and that seems to fit within the parameters of my ballistic computation. Will post results after chrony. We both experienced vertical stringing, indicating velocity variations. Looks like their powder described in previous post is position sensitive as well. The consistency I attained confirms me as a believer in dacron filler to keep the powder positioned. I suggest that you try it as well.
TrailBoss 5. Notice how 5. The Solo groups started shrinking at 6. Click here for picture. I was quite pleased to see that you carry those bullets, and even more pleased to find that you offer them with the Hitek coating, especially since my indoor range does not allow exposed lead.
Just shot my first batch over the weekend, and am thrilled with your Hitek coating. While loading - Bullets are 'slick' when handling them, and no lead on fingers after loading rounds.
On a progressive press that is seating and has separate crimp die the effort is noticeable reduced for each pull of lever. Lead rounds used to pile up in the exit chute after being kicked out, now they slide down to the bin without jamming. Seating and crimping operations are smoother. Usually I experience interruptions in loading process when doing a batch of lead bullets.
None with the coated bullets. Results of test fire. Slightly more accurate, time will tell as I may have just been having a good day. I have one that is very picky to seating depths, ran a batch of mixed length loads and they fed flawlessly. I would say this is a big step forward.
Better performance and more pleasurable loading what else could one ask for! Will be ordering more real soon I am really satisfied with these bullets - they produced great results and worked well with my gun. I bought 45 cal rnfp bullets for cowboy action. Went to the range this thursday to see if they would lead the bore of my 73 winchester.
Leading was not a problem, very accurate, from a 50yd rest 5 rounds at little over 1in. I plan to use this same bullet in my 45 acp for Idpa. You folks make a good bullet. I load 3. It is also comfortable to shoot. I'm loading the Missouri 9mm gr SWC and trying to make a really light target round.
Nothing in my books matched up exactly and the variance between loads of similar weight was extreme to say the least, but the closest I could extrapolate was 4. I haven't shot them yet but after thinking about it some more maybe that's a little hot, which I don't want. Would around 3. Anybody got any thoughts on this?? I'm shooting a third gen mod I believe I'm in the 'too hot' range with 4. If I shoot them up to get the cases back, what should a starting load be?? My older Alliant manual lists 4.
My Lyman Pistol and Revolver Handbook lists up to 4. I don't believe you're in the "too hot" range with your 4. Angel I agree it's on the low side. I'm am seating to 1. I got this number somewhere, didn't just trying stuff and surely didn't take someones else's word for it. I'll have to poke around and see where I might have found it.
I believe light loads can be as bad or worst than excessive. I shoot mostly light loads and have reduced my springs to allow for the lighter recoil.
Thanks alwslate, that sounds reasonable to me. I'm putting together light loads for my wife. If the 4. I don't want to go too low and start running into slide operation problems. What seem to shoot and eject the best was 3. That load shoots 1" groups at 15yds, very little leading that cleans out very easy, all brass is in a 12" to 14" dia circle about 1 to 2ft away using a 11lb recoil spring.
The only thing I'll change when I shoot up this supply of lead is order my next at. I weighed one hundred Blue Bullets and there was a 5.
Penn Bullets offers a coated bullet, which I have ordered but won't get for several weeks. Their coating is proprietary and not the branded Hi-Tek coating. As far as reloading is concerned, I would rather reload polymer coated lead bullets over un-coated lead bullets any day.
And cleaning my gun after shooting polymer coated bullets is much, much easier and faster than after a session of shooting un-coated. Regarding accuracy, what might be accurate to me could be wholly inadequate to the likes of John Zurek or Brian Zins. So some shooters will look at the pictures below and say 'I wish I could shoot like that' while most shooters will say 'I am glad I am not that bad'.
With that said, he is my experience with polymer coated bullets. Accuracy is good enough for me. Note that even though this is a SWC, the holes are very jagged. The third photo is from a local, non-sanctioned match. It was a timed fire string using a gr Blue Bullet. Note how the holes are cleaner, as we would expect a SWC to make. In summary, polymer coated bullets are accurate enough for me NRA classification of Expert and they are a whole lot easier to clean up after, both in reloading and shooting.
Spoke with Terry on the phone and what a super guy. Plus, he supports this site, so it's really win win for everyone.
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